Wednesday, April 13, 2011

Dog Recall Homeschool

I just realized that for non dog folks, that blog title would not scan properly. You might be tempted to say I have a subject/verb agreement problem (Dog Recalls Homeschool; or Dogs Recall Homeschool) but there would still be the problem of what could that possibly mean?

Well, actually there is no grammar problem here; "recall" is the dog coming to the handler on cue, and this is about teaching a dog to recall, myself, at home. :-)

The last few weeks my inbox has been buzzing with info about an online recall training course. & I don't mean 'buzz' in that social networking way. I keep seeing it all over because genuine real people on numerous training lists have been mentioning it, debating signing up or announcing that they faced down the sticker shock and *did* sign up.

I considered it, watched a bunch of the sales pitch videos but I didn't sign up. Mostly because the sticker shock, but also because the more I read about the trainer, the more I think our philosophies are not quite sympatico.

And the sticker shock. OMFSM.

BUT, I do really need to work on recall & so I thought, I homeschool my kids, I can homeschool my dogs & I don't need a correspondence course!

I have a shelf full of books and resources, including Pamela Dennison's Training the Whistle Recall. I have also viewed Leslie Nelson's Really Reliable Recall (public library has it! Yay!). I also have Susan Smith's Emergency Recall protocol.

Can you tell recall has been important to me?

I have one dog who does not always play nice with strange dogs.

I have another dog who will chase birds, possibly across provincial, state, and country borders.

If they're going to be offleash, I need to be able to call them and have them come to me fast, no matter what.

Like this:
If you click to embiggen, you'll see awesome mud splattering as Daisy drives hard to get to us. (or possibly to chase her doggy friends. This was not taken during recall training.)

Also on my shelf of dog training stuff, amidst the dvds, books, e-books, binders, training notes, saved e-mails, I have several gems from Dee Ganley & Brenda Aloff, all focused on how to deepen our connection with dogs. We can motivate dogs to be with us & to stay with us, if we understand what motivates them. The first part of good recall protocol exercises is always to consider & make up a long list of motivators (& 'punishers' or aversives as well. These are things to avoid happen anywhere near you, or as a result of a recall command).

What is it that a particular dog likes, what will motivate him to work for you, what is his 'price'? How can you make being with you so amazingly wonderful that they think the sun rises and sets in your eyes? What will keep that dog's attention on you when distractions ramp up?

Not sure Darwin's attention is actually on me here. What is he looking at on his right?

I want to challenge myself to do a 'recall intensive' for 30 days and see what progress we can make. I'm not officially starting yet (though I did take Darwin out to a playing field on Monday & worked him on a long line with the whistle. He was awesome!), I'm still in the prep stage, gathering up all my resources and rewards. Darwin's especially are tricky - it's hard to compete with real live flying birds! I have ordered something which I'm hoping will blow his little brain. I'm keeping it under wraps until it comes (& no, I am not getting homing pigeons!) Once I officially start I'll update & try to keep track (probably on twitter) how things are going.

How about you? Are you working on training anything specific? Planning any intensives to improve performance?

(both photos courtesy of my friend who is a skookum photographer and has a delish new camera. She gave me permission but doesn't want credit. You can look forward to more great shots because I've appointed her official photographer of our feisty fido dog club outings. Even though she did make comments about needing her wide lens for Bear. Ahem.)

9 comments:

Karen said...

I'm thinking a bird wing on a string that you can spin around for Darwin, which makes me think of the lures the falconers use:)
Yeah, I considered that online recall course as well....

Vicky said...

The photo of Daisy was worth the price of admission all by itself! Priceless.

My biggest training challenge is to train my husband to be consistent with the dog in my absence. Seriously, I'd rather train eight dogs than one husband ;)

hornblower said...

Hey Vicky - it's just like training dogs. Make your list of motivators. Figure out his one top prize motivator ;-) & then, Click & treat.

I love that photo too! Would you believe the photog is refusing to get a blog of her own?! Fortunately I can put up her great pix.

Karen - yes! I'll be using variations on that theme. I've used fresh feathers from dead birds I've found & once I had a bit of a wing. I put it on a flirt pole...... & discovered darwin's scared of sticks & the flirt pole frightened him :-( Plus some gundog peeps told me that for pointers & setters, getting the bird isn't as big a motivator as scanning & finding the NEXT bird. Once he's spotted one, he loses interest & wants to find another one. They're funny dogs :-)

Karen said...

The first dog I had of my own was an Irish Setter, so I know a bit how those bird dogs can be:)
I can save you the wings off the next dead chicken we have if you like:) It might be a while before we have another one though, depending....

Raegan said...

Oooh, I know exactly what you mean about being not quite sympatico with that trainer. I waver on her as well. Doesn't mean I don't own two of her DVD's... hmm, maybe you'd like to trade-borrow? Maybe for the Whistle Recall?

Marsh is currently everything-intensive. So much to cram in that little brain of his. :) Heeling (or an approximation of such) and baby retriever work and tricks! I got permission to teach a tricks class this summer at my kennel club and I want to use him as a demo dog.

Oh, and my friends have the same trouble with recall! Apparently this is not a known thing!

Dave said...

The easiest way to get your dog on a recall if he has a high prey drive is this in two parts:

1) Make it look like he's the most wonderful dog in the world if he successfully comes back to you at home or in a enclosed area like a tennis court. This builds the foundation.

2) Go out into the woods where there's a lot of stimulus. Let him run, unless it's a deer then beware of gun owners. Call once or twice. If he doesn't come back, hide in the bush. He will come back to where you were, but he will panick you left without him.

From that point on, the dog knows you means business when you call for him. No need for punishment or whatsoever, but it still gives him indirect consequences to deal with if he doesn't listen.

hornblower said...

Dave - I have successfully used the hide method with some of my family's previous dogs. On the GSD's it worked wonders & I know my parents played that game with our wire fox terrier way back when I was a kid.

I have some doubts that it will work on a birdy gundog & it is presupposed on a really strong bond between handler & dog. All my dogs are rescues so it takes us time to build that bond & I don't take it for granted as I might with a dog properly raised from puppyhood.

My setter Darwin is now well bonded to me and certainly looks for me in enclosed spaces. I still have doubts that he'd NOTICE me missing for quite some time once he went off after quarry. By then, he might be miles away.

I do plan to use hiding in our training plan eventually but I'm nowhere near that yet....

On the plus side, Darwin did scoot out the front door a few days ago, ran around the driveway and my unfenced front yard & came trotting back to me like a 'normal' dog so things are looking up.

He's not getting offleash unfenced privileges until I'd be willing to bet several hundred bucks on him coming back - & I'm not a gambler LOL. He was a repeat run away in his previous home & people lose bird dogs all the time - even with e-collars; some now use gps on the collars to try to find their dogs later....

My Dog World said...

I often use the hide method when out on walks, especially if the dogs don't "come" first or second time, they usually come looking.

They don't always right up to me but most of the time they come close enough to grab the collar and put lead back on, I also let them go again after putting lead on so they know that lead does not always mean play time is over and it's home time.

When they do come right up to me, after hiding, they get a reward, a treat and a fuss.

Dave said...

"He's not getting offleash unfenced privileges until I'd be willing to bet several hundred bucks on him coming back - & I'm not a gambler LOL. He was a repeat run away in his previous home & people lose bird dogs all the time - even with e-collars; some now use gps on the collars to try to find their dogs later...."

Ah, do those people hunt with their dogs? Or just pets? If they don't shoot over their dogs, that might possess a problem. It's easier for the dog to associate "human gets me dead animals."

By "bird dogs," do you means spaniels in general or as in labs? if it's the latter, check out http://fetchpup.com. He criticized trialists for breeding culled dogs, often sold as pets, so hard-headed, they don't even feel the shock. So essentially the owners end up having a lab like in "Marley and Me."

If they do hunt with their dogs, then... that's an entirely different issue altogether.

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